I have to agree with most of what Taylor says but I will say some things:
1. Taylor’s reliance on genetics as his basis of racial behavior, a type of atheistic Behaviorism, is anti-christian. The Augustinian Christian Anthropology is that human behavior is determined by the soul not the genes.
2. Taylor is questioned if he has any Christian biblical basis for his position, and he replies by refusing to answer saying that religion is a private thing. That is definitely anti-christian. This comes into play later in the debate when he is questioned on the de jure obligation of racial separation. Taylor had pointed out that his position is Universally acknowledged in the history of the world and universally wherever one finds racial, national, linguistic and religious diversity, one finds unnecessary conflict. The Infidel Guy read a commenter who asked Taylor why his is should be taken as an ought. I don’t think he gave a satisfactory answer to this. This is where my position, as a Protestant Christian improves. Genesis 11 demonstrates a divine mandate for racial separation. Nigel lee demonstrated that the NT never abrogates this mandate.
3. I will have to agree with Wise at around the 1 hour and 20 minute mark that the emphasis on white-ness is destroying real culture. I completely agree. I am in no way advocating any kind of White Facism. My racial separation is for the purpose of maintaining the Christian and primarily the anti-Roman catholic Christian History of my ancestors in the British Isles. We need to go back to maintaining our English-ness or our Scottish-ness or our Dutch-ness. God established more than one language and nation within the Japhethite race and those historical distinctions need to be preserved not just our racial identity.



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How does Genesis 11 demonstrate a divine mandate? The only race it mentions is Shem’s race.
Gen 11: 6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.
8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
So you are saying that the word “people” in Gen 11:6 means only the race of Shem?
“So you are saying that the word “people” in Gen 11:6 means only the race of Shem?”
No, I was alluding to the genealogy starting at v.10. Anyway, the chapter only mentions the creation of languages and the scattering of the “people” building a tower, not explicitly mentioning races.
I don’t see why you are quoting Acts 17:26, it says God pre-destined the locations of nations.
Max, I never said that Genesis 11 mandated races. That is in Genesis 9. I said “Genesis 11 demonstrates a divine mandate for racial separation.” The emphasis was on the mandate to separate.
As was the Acts 17 passage.
I used the same argument against a liberal Eastern Orthodox apologist several years ago. His reply was almost word for word taken from Karl Marx.
That’s part of the reason behind my recent post that EO in America is moving towards liberalism.
His initials are D.W., and the initials of his blog are P.F.
I don’t see the idea of separating races in the chapter.
In ancient times–until the modern revolutions–it was understood that each nation was an ethnos–or part of a larger ethnos. Therefore, national boundaries in the Old Testament reinforced a largely ethnic paradigm–a paradigm that wasn’t challenged until quite recently.
So where is the orgin of races in the Bible?
It can inferred from numerous passages of scripture that the peoples that inhabited certain nations were of a certain ethnicity. Those groupds were who God separated in genesis 11.
Max,
Also, “I don’t see why you are quoting Acts 17:26, it says God pre-destined the locations of nations.”
It also mentions their bounds-the conditions of their SEPARATION.
But nations are not races.
I understand that race is not a sufficient condition for nationhood but it is a necessary condition for nationhood; at least the nations mentioned in the OT. In the OT we read of a dominate race that institutes Kingdoms:
Gen 26:1 Abimelech king of the Philistines
Num 21:21 Sihon king of the Amorites
Num 22:4 Zippor [was] king of the Moabites
1 Sam 15: 8 Agag the king of the Amalekites
1 Kings 16:31 Ethbaal king of the Zidonians
2 Chron 36: 17 king of the Chaldees
I should have qualified that a dominate race is the de jure prescription of God after the tower of babel. Obviously a dominate race was not the case in babel, which was why God instituted the separations of language, location and even continents, Gen 10:25 25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; *******for in his days was the earth divided;*******
“Nations” is a loose term. What is usually meant in pre-Revolutionary literature is an ethnos within a geographical boundary.